The dummy fip measures explosive strength but it also allows me to see what kids like contact and are aggressive. You might as well be wearing ankle weights (dont wear ankle weights either). That said, we do love to hear about improvements players make. He is at a local mid D1, no idea how it's going since he just got there in August. Does anyone know what the average college time from home to first is? I live in the Atlanta area, and I can say with certainty that while some colleges are going to high school baseball games they are more likely to go to a showcase or to watch a travel team play. She is getting faster and faster. If the player is not willing to put in time away from the instructor, you are mostly wasting your $$. 20-80 Measurables. Ive seen 58 11 year olds who are studs but never get significantly better. To calculate your age graded percent (often abbreviated AGP or AG%), we take your time and divide it by the world record time at that distance. Ive found the opposite to be true. After a few searches on the internet and not finding it, I would appreciate if you could tell me what you mean by adding FAT to your posted times, thank you, "I'm pretty sure your wrong, but care to elaborate", http://www.aisports.com/COMBRESULTS.HTM#RB, Powerlifting Workouts - Training Journals, Post Your Pictures and Introduce Yourself. Heres his 8th grade PRs from this years track season: You may also have some early video & can look at progression through the years. If you see guys running with parachutes behind them, turn around and walk out. Especially with a stupid sport coach that beats the hell out of the players. All I hear from kids is they want to go D1 D1 D1, there is nothing wrong with D2, D3 or NAIA if you are playing for the right reasons aka love of the game, Ive seen too many kids who want to say they got a scholarship and love the idea they got a scholarship and quit because theyre burnt out. Not according to the above where Tony charted out Coach Latakos sons progress. Sprinting doesnt happen during a seven-mile run. Same with football. Twitter blowing up about 7th grade rankings, Other Softball Gear and Training Tools for Sale. Id say the best way to get a base is to look over research. Female Excellent Good Average Needs Improvement. Without sprint training, soccer breeds horrible sprint mechanics and slow runners. The tables use factors to adjust your time to a comparable performance by a 30-year old (open class) runner. Take a look at this link and excerpt included below. Here's the crazy thing. I'm sure the kid deserved the attention he ended up receiving, but I'm guessing the parents got more out of the early scores than anyone else - "Little Jimmy was in the 98% percentile of all pre-teens with a pop time of 2.5". My wife is a doctor. For as much as team sports value speed they sure dont seem to put kids in the right environment to develop it. Local boy posted an 89 at a showcase, but 2 weeks before he posted a 90 at a PG game, the 90 is what is listed as his best. 20-yard sprint: Run 60 feet to measure speed from home plate to first base. OMG I am now running a 4.80 and im still 10. This seldom happens in youth sports. My 7-year-old daughter is very good at sprinting 100 meters. If you are 6.7 but don't seem to move too well on the bases, they'll call you average. The average punt covers about 40 yards, which is why it became an important distance for football sprints. Go to some games? Also forgot to mention. to be fast, you gotta go fast, Replied
Im 15 and run a 2.26 20 yd and a 4.8 40 yd, is that average? It seems all little kids play soccer these days. Based on the above, the numbers from the blog seem fairly accurate. This would certainly skew the numbers (and percentage gain) over time. Remember, sprinters pick up their feet, lift their knees, and then deliver vertical force. The gap is smaller between elite females and non-elite males, but it's still insurmountable and that's ultimately what matters. For some reason, I can find it via Google but it doesn't work when I copy the link into the post. No entrepreneurial coach should put training in conflict with playing multiple sports. This is a link to my Youth Development page (I need to update it as I have a lot more links and info to add just need to find the time). Recruits need to show the strength, speed and general athleticism to make the jump. This improvement was noted immediately after the growth spurt. What will often separate recruits in the mind of coaches is how serious a prospect takes their sport. And I dont have an amazing start. The 75 running backs had an average 10-yard split of 1.57 seconds at the combine and 1.57 seconds at their pro days. Great article thanks for all the sprinting information. Competition and measured efforts take athletes to new levels. . I am not sure about the average improvement in the 60 each year but I know that you can expect to get faster as you mature in high school. If they arent wearing spikes, they arent sprinting. If you want to maximize your kids chances for success, teach them to sprint because speed kills, and you dont get fast by running slow. Since September Ive been seeing them 3 times a week. I've heard this a LOT. If you are pushing things, pulling things, running slowly uphill, or running with parachutes, your contact time wont be 0.08. 12 seconds is fast for any age in the 100. Here are measurements for different levels of players: Infielders: Average High School: 7.4 sec I would only add that going to a school with a " strong " HS program can help but only if you arent a bench warmer. On average, their front 20 yards clocked in at 2.85, while their back 20 came in at 2.06. go to da moon copy and paste. Required fields are marked *. For optimum effectiveness, kids must sprint two or three times a week. An athletic kid in good shape can bear crawl like it is a natural thing. Two weeks ago our incoming freshman football players did a freelap 40 indoors on carpet with no spikes and he clocked in at 4.71 FAT. Coaches are looking for the best fits for their team. My take on home to 1st is that scouts tend to collect this information on those kids they think it may make a difference. Times have changed. My advice is to keep collecting data and stay patient. If this kid ran a legit 5.7 40 as an 8 year old, I have ocean front property in AZ you can buy. My kid goes to a very aggressive school with a strong sports program with a history of kids being recruited to play in college. Closed. 7.0 before training, 6.81 after a month or so. Another problem that arises in adolescence is the major discrepancy in maturity. 2. Unapproved
Coach Kim Goss delves into the importance of elastic strength training in helping injury-proof athletes against non-contact lower-body injuries. My point is that freaks can play 2-4 sports. ( bigger stronger and much faster) I was told the only way to post a better time is to do another PG showcase (The WWBA and the other PG tournaments do not have a timed 60 run only PG showcases). I think the problem with focusing is especially at the small school level you cant afford to have 3-5 kids specialize bc the other teams suffer. A 2020 study tested the . Im sure shell plateau big time at some point but its fun to go out and do once a year. A "Good" 10-Yard Split Time (1.56-1.59) Gaines Adams, Buccaneers: 1.58 (2007) Derrick Harvey, Jaguars: 1.59 (2008) An "Average" 10-Yard Split Time (1.60-1.62) Kamerion Wimbley, Raiders: 1.60 (2006) Bruce Davis, Patriots: 1.62 (2008) A "Below Average" 10-Yard Split Times (1.63-1.69) Charles Johnson, Panthers: 1.63 (2007) We paired up with a buddy & had both of them train & it cut cost in a major way ($45 / 1 Hr. No training at all. He's a good running back too, but you really want him on the OL. All of these are timed and then I add the times together and the lowest total times are the best athletes on the team. I do three tests for linear speed:10 yard - for quickness (I look at this for every player but I key on it for linemen)20 yard - for speed (most linear runs are just under 20 yards (routes/pursuit/edge runs)40 yard - breakaway speed (tells me who has the extra gear). I lettered in 4 sports in high school and played small D1 football and track(sprinting). She sprint trains a few days a week in the off season. Because of your article I quickly bought agility hurdles instead of the parachute. I've heard pop times are difficult at times to control as the catchers start "cheating". That said, I usually dont start the watch til she begins moving and run next to her so my timing might be off by 0.2 or sothough I feel like I usually wait til she goes through the line a little to stop. . It makes a big difference. Could you answer a question for me? Tony retired from teaching chemistry after 38 years in the classroom and has 39 years of coaching experience (football, basketball, and track). I just read about a 13 yr old that has agreed to attend Washington. I don't use HIT scoresnot a fan of it and I think you have to test linear speed (as it helps to determine explosive strength and raw force production) and lateral speed. Having an above average first step can make a runner who is an average 6.9-7.1 into a plus player. I have timed over 200,000 40s in my coaching career. Even though the server responded OK, it is possible the submission was not processed. Thank goodness great coaching minds have put the kibosh on that. I have an 8 year old son now and I am trying to not repeat those mistakes with him, but he seems to have a more is better natural mentality. So, either my son is really fast for his age or this times of your son are not really fast? Ill take this article to my masters athlete friends and share. Interesting to see all the different opinions on what is considered fast and what isn't. OP, congrats to your DD for being in the top 20 at the event. Softball message board with discussions on softball hitting, softball pitching, coaching youth softball and where you can get softball drills and softball tips. Very interesting comments but do you mind explaining to me what you mean by FAT.? 40 (2) = Second 40-yard dash time per NFL Network coverage 40 (O) = Official 40-yard dash time from NFL Network coverage and NFL.com 10 (1) = First 10-yard split time per NFL Network coverage This is from a coach who has timed 100's over 20 years. 10 and 20 are what I look at the most when I eval kids. Great post. timmy on December 4, 2011 at 3:42 pm #112861. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I know the rate of decreasing times cant continue, but its interesting to see how they track. The scores to the left are average times and the score to the right is the best score I have seen in that drill. What makes that difficult for many recruits is that some coaches are willing to project earlier than others and athletes develop on different timelines. He was at 7.28 to start & with 6 weeks of 1X / week meeting with speed & conditioning coach & doing his "homework," he got to a 7.06. They said that any 20 yard dash time 3.0 and below was fast. And that is still not understood in the rehab world. Some coaches do not care about it and others do. Whats new with Kinvents third-generation KForce force plates? I would be really interested to see how things work out. These times were set in May and will be retested in November/December and then every 6 months. 7.Throwing Velocity measured by the use of a radar gun The athlete makes a maximum of five overhand throws with a regulation softball, on flat ground. These former college players I hired still love the game and they're normally very interested in helping young players with athleticism, desire, and a dream, like they once had. The current issue with sport is that these kids just compete year round. Compensations become habits. In fact Ive seen kids quit and not play in college because theyve been falsely pumped up by athletic enhancement gurus or AAU coaches and when they didnt get a D1 offer they thought lower levels were beneath them. If you see mini-hurdles, the coach probably knows his stuff. PG does post the best speed they have seen at their events, not just the best speed at a showcase. Why? Its a great one! He ran a 6.82 at a showcase (laser timed) on 4 June, so he is attending another one next week in the hopes of getting down to 6.7would be nice to hit that time since he just turned 17. My daughter is 5 years and 8 months now and ran an 8.5 today. Old 4 year old: 9.0just did this one today. The following average times were measured between 2000 and 2012 at the NFL combine for players who played at least 5 games. That would translate to a sub 6 second 40. I was also an athlete and played football in High school and college. OBP: .450 Slugging: .550 (minimum 2 at bats per game) Why is there a jump in performance in the "older" age groups? Sprint mechanics must be taught. If you are 7.0+, the scout probably isn't going to clock you home to 1st. Great time, man. However, a straight line run can show pursuit. That is pretty darn fast. If you don't see that going well then neither will the coach, and your boy won't make the team or he will be the bench warmer until that growth spurt hits. (verified by a third party), Infield velocity: Division 1 middle infield recruits will throw the ball across the diamond anywhere between 85 MPH 95 MPH, The prototypical Division I middle infield recruit can hit for high average as well as steal a lot of bases and occasionally hit for power, Infield Velocity: Low 80s and above MPH from SS, Slugging: .450 (minimum 2 at bats per game), Infield velocity: 8795+ MPH from the outfield, OF velocity: 87+ MPH (verified by a neutral source), Slugging: at least 5 HRs as a high school junior and senior, Velocity from the OF: low 80s at least, with the potential to improve, Slugging: Multiple HRs as a high school junior and senior. Average 20-yard dash time for high school softball is approximately 3.5 seconds; NCAA softball is approximately 3.1 seconds. Who are the coaches? Why? Thanks for reading and sharing this. (gots to make money right). I don't look for just straight line speed numbers, I use a variety of methods during evals.